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This isn't a new issue, as has been mentioned in the article above, and the longer we ignore the elephant in the room the harder it will become to resolve. Futile. He said when the work is complete, sand will be pushed up to cover most of the seawall. First it was a track. By doing so they have encouraged similar management intervention from beachside landholders by 1. demonstrating part liability for coastal erosion processes by building such a structure that threaten adjacent properties and 2. There's been a lot written about the challenges of the various adaptation options, including the purchase of private lands. I am looking at it but there is probably someone better qualified out there. Ratepayer/taxpayer bailout, so business as usual whatever happened to caveat emptor? Narrabeen and Collaroy residents hold signs and protest their opposition towards the sea wall extension plans in November 2012 In November 2002, Harmer and Donohue led a protest against a $12 million sea wall, proposed by Warringah Council, with 3000 people linking arms along a 1.1km stretch of beach. I've looked at the general location plan of the cables and it seems there is a good say 500m- 1000m distance between groups of them along the beach, and they are buried for the first 500m out from the shore, so I would say there is a good chance of working within those areas in consultation with the cable authorities. My working assumption is that they have behaved unethically on this matter. good pics there willi, hadn't realised this. The process is cyclical, however short-sighted development upon the foredune, built during times of a wide beach profile, impedes the system. It's been seven years since the last, but the event has been called on off for this Wednesday - Hawaiian time. The Gold Coast has undoubtedly the most at risk coastline in Australia. The root cause is building on the foredune. Sorry Peter but we can't just take you on your word for it. Perhaps the omission was because in 2002, protestors, led by Brendan Donohoe and Surfrider Foundation founder Tom Kirsop, formed a line in the sand stretching from Collaroy to Narrabeen opposing the construction of any seawalls. Yep. Should this critical lens be applied to other topics such as the Coolum wavepool? I just can't see HOW these monstrosities ever get approved, purely on an engineering level. "Once this is up it'll be a momentum for others to do it too," said Orth. Wonder if he has been down there in the last 2 days to check on status of wall? My view is if it cannot be protected by environmentally sound methods then that is the owner's problem. This is very different to Collaroy. "Environmental vandalism or gross negligence?". I guess that the levees will give me a 100% guarantee that it'll never happen in my lifetime". Surfers, sun bathers and swimmers. It would be fascinating to see the NSW Cabinet documents which advocated for this approach. If they were 100% against it but felt they had no choice but to design/sign it, then they simply have no morals/ethics/backbone. Sorry wasnt specifically referring to collaroy which I completely agree has been a known and long term problem. Though with 80 properties at risk, and coastal real estate prices at a premium, they gave up on that approach in 2007. there is no excuse for purchasing a property on the beach in the last 30 years let alone 5 without an inkling of understanding of the risks. Get Pro. https://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/Policy-and-Legislation/Coastal-and-marin "The scheme operates along the entire NSW coastal zone except for the Greater Sydney metropolitan area, identified as between Broken Bay (Central Coast) and the Minnamurra River (south of Shellharbour).". (AO) Though they were quick to remove signs only recently erected on the beach.. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/council-was-asked-about-danger-signs To be replaced with signs "Collaroy artificial reef project 2023", This is a glimpse of what a beach could be; following sensible Council planning; (post storms in 1974) eg. We have trouble performing numerical analysis on complex near shore environments, so what we'll do is create a slab sided wave tank with perfectly geometrical structures and wave forms and see what "actually happens". It would be the same as for any development adjacent to the cables where they make landfall. Initial reports claim Marcio Friere wasn't wearing an inflatable vest when he was held down in large waves. RAW footage from this week's extra-large swell at Peahi. The GCCC's Palm Beach Qld solution which uses an offshore reef/sand nourishment/seawall buried in the dune is the ONLY solution for coastal erosion that protects both beachfront private property and public property ie the beach, without any structures being visible on the beach. Posted the story from that link here. I am working on a gipa application to try and find out what community consultation they did for the second DA. Same stretch of sand - another wall to protect public assets - https://www.scs.nsw.gov.au/soil-conservation-services-projects/collaroy- Gary G has been erecting hard structures in the dunes around Victorian beaches for years. It certainly doesn't make it the best decision though. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=144437777895204. More than a year after severe storms damaged property in Collaroy, construction of a long-awaited sea wall is underway. If you don't know know shit about the processes of the ocean and coastal erosion then please put your hand up and say so. In 2002, about 3000 people took to the beach to protest a planned sea wall, concerned it could destroy the beach. Harmer and husband have been protesting for 14 years to stop surf barrier She led 2002 lobby against $12 million wall proposed by Warringah council A monster Sydney storm wiped out properties. In Japan, their solution is to just go bigger and higher . It's eroded locally at present, lots of rocks revealed on low tide but it's also end of winter. The matter is currently under investigation by Environmental . Actually I do understand why the council doesn't research an alternative to a concrete wall, because it's easier to build a wall, something humans have been doing for thousands of years, we're good at it. However, the bean counters and quantity surveyors were extremely difficult for obvious reasons. Staged retreats seem the best option, but also some councils are genuinely desperate to embrace the most apocalyptic climate change forecasts. Although ill be constantly monitoring the situation and around at cathedral the beach profile has certainly been getting steeper. Lake that has been going on for the last 20 years. what's the logic/law in having to buy back the properties ? A barrier reef in place would no doubt have knock-on effects. Also I'm suspecting at the lga level the up front investment to do this work can be a hard sell. Death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Aside from high tides and Tsunamis, Im guessing most islands/atolls dont suffer much erosion when surrounded by reefs? You may not realise that there have been large volumes . "Update from Council on possible site visit to Northern Beaches: Casey Johnston advised a site visit to Narrabeen-Collaroy is being canvased for early December 2021 to allow review of their seawall in construction. Check this out. Im just saying its a difficult issue, beachwall terrible and if its sets a precedent huge chunks of the coast stuffed. the council up here is anti sea walls, but there is a thread that runs through them very much of "stuff the beachfront guys - they are rich". Isn't an extension to the Point Cartwright breakwall on the cards aa well? This is the only plausible outcome from the hard seawall construction and the engineers would have known this. The Northern Beaches took a massive hit by big surf and a king tide . Painful to see such a blunt object of a solution. the whole sea level/erosion issue is here now ..hmm any idea's solutions you have come across? Hey BD. we all end up paying for it directly if we haven't already e.g. It's actually quite simple to install and get going unlike a lot of open-source software. Old dude making a dash for it, budgie smugglers and a cricket cap. Both!! The seawall is protected from the direct onslaught of waves by rows of granite boulders which are reinforced every year to stop erosion. Surely, private properties can be protected but public amenities will require huge ongoing costs to keep up with the public requirement (sand nourishment is the first thing that comes to mind). How about dredging narrabeen lagoon?? I'd imagine brendan and surfrider will have that covered. The majority of these companies are legitimate businesses set up by Yakuza. The Feds and States are the only ones with sufficient means to do anything, but for them its a case of not my problem. The only place for a residence next to Narrabeen Beach was up on the headland. Yep totally agree. Will it make Carties better or will kooks just ride into the wall even more. They have just set a precedent for the whole east coast of poor me multi millionaire landowners to set up squeaky wheel collectives. Offshore reefs would be expensive , but we are already spending 100's of millions on bad solutions that actually cause more problems than they solve so money cannot be used as an excuse. Seawalls form a defining line between sea and land. Kimura (2016) "When a seawall is visible: Infrastructure and obstruction in post-tsunami reconstruction in Japan" Or are they just doing it like politicians and getting consultants to advise them and simply ignoring it and doing what they want as they are not bound by law to take that advice. Thanks BB. Would be really good to see an article on the current state of affairs in the Coastal engineering world. The facts stand as such, an Engineer/s designed this monstrosity and no amount of excuses can change that. https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/peter-horton-coastal-engineer. Took the words out of my mouth. It only does BOUSSINESQ wave interaction and NOT sediment transport but you can still get a lot of good design-feedback Stupid dumbfucks. The National Library of Australia's Copies Direct service lets you purchase higher quality, larger sized photocopies or electronic copies of newspapers pages. They have destroyed every built form on the beaches. Surely going to get all crazy reverb and backwash stripping their sand more rapidly as well. It would be interesting to know if coastal engineers are bound by law to follow best-advice from Consulting Scientists? The DA for the Collaroy seawall was approved while the Northern Beaches Council was under administration. check out the beach erosion in Apollo bay as well This widely publicized protest was an attempt to promote a pro-democracy, civil liberty, social justice message, and to protest against corporate greed and economic inequality. Not sure why coastal ginger beers (engineeers) assigned by local councils just keep getting it wrong, but it would be fascinating to go through the meetings minutes of how these get passed, and the deceptive and misguided arguments that must be being put forward. Most swells will have to wrap around the rock/reef headlands as well as cape Otway before this and nicely wrap the swell into the bays and our coast has been shaped like this for however thousands of years so it is used to it, and this is what us humans observe as the normal state of the beaches as they are quite predictable and dont change much around here. Well now we know who is responsible for this debacle. Should have taken the high road. Their email is: [emailprotected]. https://nationalprecast.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Collaroy-Beach 2020 Surfer keelhauled by Collaroy Stormwater Pipe {RIP} Northern Beaches Council are the biggest tossers ever. https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/tarzans-stormy-st-clair-skinny-dip. There's no sense at all in building something like this from an engineering perspective. An "Engineer/s" designed this monstrosity and other "Engineers" approved it. If it were replicated along vulnerable areas of the NSW coast (and that of other states) we would never be able to afford adaptation. The seawall is probably built over them. Theyve introduced these gently sloped walls to broaden the widths of the roads to protect them from erosion. You got to have demand/competition in order for a buyback to increase value of supply. It would be possible to introduce a major sand nourishment program to move the shoreline seaward, says Gordon. Given Council has already completed protection works on public land, and there's been a lot of talk about the owners' seawall, understanding all the facts is important. One thing about mankind. Hence, they are of no market value to me. I no longer live in the area but just can't believe it has progressed so far without anyone noticing. I think the re-sale value of their properties trumped their ability to access the from their back garden. Over the coming fortnight there's a couple more swell forecast from the east-northeast and that'll really put the structures to the test. Five years ago, residents along Collaroy Beach watched helplessly as enormous waves smashed into their backyards, collapsing pools and patios of their multimillion-dollar waterfront properties. Such a shame that it's not like California or other US states where the owner has no right to protect their land from erosion etc. A few years on when I visited I suggested a stroll along the cliffs at the estuary and they replied that its to dangerous now as theres been heaps of erosion for some reason. Might be time to lawyer up. Ocean Pools > Skate Bowls > Wave Pools > "Boomer'z Backwash Booger Bowl", Crew requested the Turning Japanese Tool Box, History of Collaroy Erosion / Wave Pools / Tow Surfers. You can cry about why it wasn't their fault but that doesn't change anything at all. and I live 8 hours away. The politicians and land owners actions are an entirely separate discussion and I'm not entering into that minefield! Here Willi. It's orders of magnitude more than a bunch of multi-million dollar properties at risk. We all have valuable opinions, but they need to be separated from facts at all times, especially when it comes to Journalism. Such a shame its job wasn't to conserve the beach and public access at the same time. Embed Forecast. nothings going to stop him on his daily dip. Gold Coast City Council had a similar problem to Collaroy at Palm Beach Qld. Imagine the carnage during the next ECL. It also enshrines a process of community consultation before a council adopts any coastal programs. Surge and erosion even on protected beaches on the Mid North Coast today is nuts. Im worried they will put one of these in at a beachie around here as the carpark and rd are imminent to be taken by the ocean and Im sure that will dramatically change the profile of that beach. For Sydney its not just beach suburbs. High rise apartment buildings demolished when they realised it was the most cost effective and environmentally sound long term solution. It just doesn't make the engineering firms any money or contribute to gross state product under the current economic system. For those who may not know, the private land issue is complicated in NSW in particular (less so in other states) by the existence of ambulatory land boundaries which are set at various levels of the tide eg mean high water. That is why this option was selected for Palm Beach Qld, and I think should be considered for all the other coastal erosion hotspots along the NSW coast as well. Not off topic JS, wouldn't be surprised if there is a hyperlink to that video in the sea wall approval document!. >>Is that because he has been paid already?? In their natural state, sand dunes are dynamic and in a constant state of flux. There's only a loss to be made for the purchases. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/01/28/world/28israel6/28israel6-sup https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/g Basque Wavegarden Project Has Far-Reaching Implications, Watch: Ryan Callinan // Beneath A Pear Tree, Kala Grace In Dramatic Rescue While Competing In Backdoor Shootout, 'Corners Of The Earth: Kamchatka' Tour Dates, Watch: Cronulla's Jarvis Earle Wins World Junior Title. In blustery, unfavourable conditions, people began lining up at 4.00pm Saturday afternoon (27 November) between Collaroy and Narrabeen to form a 'line in the sand' against the seawall's construction. Some family recently went through this as their house sat above the construction zone for the Spit / Northern Beaches Link tunnel. It would be fantastic to see an interview with someone from Many Hydrolics as they did all the Scientific modeling and have been very open in sharing their data. Making it deeper? Guess where that temporary rock wall has ended up! There are many software suits now that can handle very complex near-shore modeling, including sediment transport from wave and current action. https://www.smh.com.au/property/news/coastal-properties-at-highest-clima https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-17/will-climate-change-put-an-end-to Kala Grace In Dramatic Rescue While Competing In Backdoor Shootout, 'Corners Of The Earth: Kamchatka' Tour Dates, Watch: Hossegor Super Session January 6th, Australian Designer To Launch Crescent Head Hotel Amid Local Development Concerns, Dead Marine Life Washes Onto South Oz Beaches After Flooding, Watch: Ryan Callinan // Beneath A Pear Tree, Watch: Cronulla's Jarvis Earle Wins World Junior Title. The question is why did the owners go for such an unattractive solution that by all appearances seems to have blocked their beach access. Here's the full video with audio. when roads and buildings are about to fall into the sea. 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